|
Post by PFeels on Sept 5, 2004 6:46:06 GMT -5
10) Another tactic we see players do while playing defense, is to audible down from a Quarters to a 4-3 defense. You can still do it, but here is the problem. The defensive player ratings drop substantially during the play. The idea is to keep players from using this cheap tactic to cheat the AI. ...
Can someone explain why this is wrong?, I know it's against the rules but if your in Quarters and the Offense audibles from 4 WR to I Formation why can't you counter it? ...or am I not understanding something
|
|
|
Post by Petrags23 on Sept 5, 2004 11:36:29 GMT -5
I think they made it illegal because people then have their speedy DBs at LB, and if you blitz the QB is in a world of hurt.
|
|
|
Post by GoPanthers98 on Sept 5, 2004 12:33:51 GMT -5
I think they made it illegal because people then have their speedy DBs at LB, and if you blitz the QB is in a world of hurt. that and in 2004 if you audibled down the CB's tackled just as good as the LB's would, so it was a way to make your LB's unrealisticly fast and you could defend both the pass and run basically perfectly
|
|
|
Post by Poundtherock on Sept 5, 2004 14:59:17 GMT -5
10) Another tactic we see players do while playing defense, is to audible down from a Quarters to a 4-3 defense. You can still do it, but here is the problem. The defensive player ratings drop substantially during the play. The idea is to keep players from using this cheap tactic to cheat the AI. ... Can someone explain why this is wrong?, I know it's against the rules but if your in Quarters and the Offense audibles from 4 WR to I Formation why can't you counter it? ...or am I not understanding something RULE VI AUDIBLING: You cannot audible down on offense, i.e., where it puts a WR at RB or TE. You are allowed only one audible that changes your formation. You must wait for the defense to react and set (no defensive man motion). Audibles are not allowed so as to put a DB or WR any other place other than their own position. On Defense, you cannot audible down, i.e., Dime into the 4-3 or Quarter into the 3-4, unless the offense changes its formation via an audible first or the offense runs the no-huddle. There is no rule against audibling up, i.e., 4-3 to Quarter. Go to the lab and make sure that your audibles don’t abuse this rule. If someone is audibling down on OFFENSE OR DEFENSE, they are violating the rule.
|
|
|
Post by Petrags23 on Sept 5, 2004 15:06:07 GMT -5
I see... I thought the new rules for 2005 would be out by now since the season already started.
|
|
|
Post by Poundtherock on Sept 5, 2004 15:27:58 GMT -5
Yeah, we were waiting for member input on any changes, amendments, etc. Most will remain the same. However, there will be some changes and additional clarification. Look for them early this week.
|
|
|
Post by Petrags23 on Sept 5, 2004 15:57:36 GMT -5
ok
|
|
|
Post by PFeels on Sept 5, 2004 23:56:00 GMT -5
so it's oki if the O does it then the D can follow, once and they have to wait for the D ,,,
|
|
|
Post by Poundtherock on Sept 6, 2004 4:40:18 GMT -5
;D No, neither the offense nor defense can audible down.
|
|
|
Post by PFeels on Sept 6, 2004 8:08:49 GMT -5
I got ya, just not positive I understand what audible down on Offense is ... I don't think I've come across a situation where the WR is out of position ... but thanks, just trying to get a clearer view
|
|
|
Post by Poundtherock on Sept 6, 2004 8:26:04 GMT -5
There are occasions when I, and for that matter, everybody else, can come out in a passing formation and audible to a run formation putting a speedy WR at RB and/or at TE. You got to make sure your audibles do not cause this or at least know what will happen when you do. Go in and lab your audibles to make sure you know what will happen in all situations.
|
|
|
Post by Petrags23 on Sept 6, 2004 11:05:04 GMT -5
What about rules regarding the Formation Shifts? I was messing around with them last night in practice mode and after I used a shift it would put my WR in the backfield at RB and another WR at TE.
|
|
|
Post by Poundtherock on Sept 6, 2004 13:06:45 GMT -5
I don't know what playbook you were using, but I looked the Ravens formation audibles and it sounds like an audible "down" occurred, which is covered in the "audible" rule already on the books. You must have had at least 4 WRs on the field for that to happen. Did you?
|
|
|
Post by Petrags23 on Sept 6, 2004 13:15:29 GMT -5
I was actually labbing with the Titans and their playbook. I was in a 4-WR set, and when I did a Formation Shift it put my two slot receivers and TE, or it would put one of them at TE and one at RB. Basically, that is illegal, correct?
|
|
|
Post by Poundtherock on Sept 6, 2004 14:10:10 GMT -5
Yep, I think that would be a case of audibling down under the rule. I would venture to say that you maybe audibled from an Singleback-empty formation to a singleback formation. In some 4-WR sets, sometimes it will make the TE the single back, and under the rule that is okay. In the case of a 5-WR set, I can't find an escape there. Too much trouble to look. ;D. Probably safer just to audible to a different 5-WR set than to have to call a time out and pick a different play..
|
|