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Post by daddybigdraws on Dec 12, 2007 10:18:58 GMT -5
I honestly feel there should be some sort of restriction placed on playaction passes. In the NFL there is no way a defensive player would ever bite on a playaction fake on 3rd and 20. Furthermore, there is no team that would call a playaction pass on 3rd and long distances. The only reason guys are calling this play is because they realize is a cheap method of getting receivers open.
Again, I am not saying playaction should be banned but it obvious that it is being abused.
I would recommed creating a rule that would not allow a playaction pass on 3rd and anything greater then 8 yards, unless within the redzone.
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Post by tdogg on Dec 12, 2007 10:50:46 GMT -5
didn't tom brady moss do that just last game. I think there is a glitch though in madden if its more than 8 yards, so ive heard, but its nto proven yet. but on 3rd and 20 im either blitzing heavy or controlling Safety anyway so they don't usually get it.
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Post by daddybigdraws on Dec 13, 2007 7:48:40 GMT -5
The reason I am raising the question is because it is starting to be abused. Guys are calling playaction darn near every other play. Why? Because it is a cheap way to get receivers open. Especially if you are playing zone.
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Post by tdogg on Dec 13, 2007 17:56:58 GMT -5
i feel ur pain simply because i play with that Tampa 2 Defense. so im in zone all day long.
i have noticed it has been used more often i don't PA on 3rd, i do on 1st and 2nd. so I'm an offender, but im getting better at just passing now. I don't really think you can just make a rule, that says don't PA maybe on 3rd and 9 above abolish it, but other than that no. Thats just what I think.
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Post by ChuckDiesel on Dec 13, 2007 19:20:35 GMT -5
I think an easy rule to enforce is 1 complete PA bomb per game. You want to PA otherwise, it better be short passes. No team PA bombs so successfully over and over in any game of the NFL. I've lost several games this season due to cheap PA bombs.
There's nothing more that kills a good madden football game than playing someone who mostly PA bombs for his offense.
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Post by tdogg on Dec 13, 2007 20:24:40 GMT -5
thats actualy pretty absurd. I wouldn't dare say 1 per game. maybe 1 per 4 downs that way its not like constant.
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Post by ChuckDiesel on Dec 13, 2007 21:19:50 GMT -5
I'm saying PA all you want, but only 1 completed PA bomb per game. More than that is abuse. If you're not capable or willing to go down the field without PA bombs every 4 plays, what's the point?
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Post by mwg131 on Dec 13, 2007 21:24:35 GMT -5
I need the PA. Otherwise teams will stack the line to stop LT. I use it to keep teams honest but i use it realistically. 1st or 2nd down usually but not in obsurd downs. Realistic sim football is a must
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Post by tdogg on Dec 13, 2007 22:41:39 GMT -5
alot of real nfl teams use that pa bomb, hell pats scored twice off that last game. i think it sucks, if u have slow CB's but very manageable to defend against if ur using ur Safties, It is sucky if you have bad DB's if a team like the CHARGERS were to PA against me, well im not scared of their Wr's or their QB their saftey is scary but its easy to defend him.
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Post by mwg131 on Dec 14, 2007 8:52:11 GMT -5
like i said i do it to ease pressure off of LT
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Post by tdogg on Dec 14, 2007 12:11:04 GMT -5
Yea i havent played you this season mwg, i did last though when you had the chiefs nd i know your a good runner i would stack up on him all day too, so people like u do need it
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Post by daddybigdraws on Dec 14, 2007 12:59:25 GMT -5
Dont get me wrong. I do not have a problem with people calling playaction passes, but let it be realistic. If it is 3rd and 20 or a known passing situation what is the point in calling it? It is just a cheap way of getting your man open.
mwg, I don't have a problem in the way you use your playaction if guys are loading up the box to stop LT, but I highly doubt they are loading up the box to stop him on 3rd and long distances. That is my point.
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Post by ChuckDiesel on Dec 14, 2007 15:10:42 GMT -5
Nothing is more frustrating, however, than playing someone who uses the PA bomb to get most - if not all - their points. There are some people who do this because otherwise, without the completed PA bomb - they'd average less than 10 ppg. It's too much when THAT (or several bombs) is the difference maker in the game. Someone who has played well defending you should NOT have to get beat by a play (bomb) that abuses zone. You play great all game long and get beat by 3-4 PA bombs that results in all your opponents points and you lose by 1 point? That's ridonculous.
PA all you want and that's fine with me, but no more than one completed PA bomb per game. Anything more than that is weak garbage that an 8 year old could pull off.
Besides, when 8 are stacked in the box, you can still throw deep without calling the PA bomb.
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Post by motrain on Dec 14, 2007 19:49:56 GMT -5
I am playing in some other leagues that are not real fun for me. The owners abuse the DL split/loop technique and it drives me nuts!
But...they all implement a 3rd and 7 or greater NO PA rule. I believe this will handle the issue once and for all.
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Post by hutrunhut on Dec 14, 2007 20:33:34 GMT -5
The deep pass has always been a problem in madden...it is the hardest play to stop b/c YOU have to stop it. If you play against a WR with 96sp or greater then they will beat your cb and saf. during the span of the game. This is the one reason that I play with the SS or FS 98% of the time. This is a sim league and I have seen a quite a few teams fake the draw on 3rd and long. I for one go for a first down if I have a 3rd and long and don't just take my rb on a draw. Limiting PA gives more ppl a chance to complain and for guys like mwg it takes away from his game
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