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Post by jpar on Sept 20, 2004 18:05:50 GMT -5
Is there a rule about running the same blitz every time? There are several blitzes that are VERY effective. Since we're encouraged to mix it up on offense, shouldn't we mix it up on defense, too? I just played a very boring game where all I saw were corner routes on passes, and blitzes on passing downs. What's more important in this league? Sportsmanship? Or winning? It's a little lame to use a superior team and run the same defense every play, even if it does get you the desired results. And you might counter by saying "don't run the same offensive plays" but I like my chances in shotgun against a blitz than from under center...
What is the league's take on this sort of play? In my opinion, there needs to be some sort of regulation on it, because it makes for very boring games...
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Post by The Beast™ on Sept 20, 2004 18:24:39 GMT -5
It's hard to say someone is running the same play on defense... Especially the Ravens who are a attacking and blitzing team... If someone is blitzing alot then it's up to you to figure out how to beat it. I feel your pain. Last year I played a league game where the person blitzed every passing down and beaten mercilessy. Calling the same plays, offensively or defensively is only talked about as a guideline... Not a rule... Especially cause it's hard to prove... You may think it's the same play when actually it's not. I'm sure the commishes can elaborate further. I know what you mean though... I gotta take on the person you're talking about next week.
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Post by Commish on Sept 20, 2004 18:42:01 GMT -5
Alot of what Beast says is right on. The guideline is to mix it up playwise both on offense and defense. And with the overrated Ravens D they may be getting alot of pressure on you using different plays. Before the roster update when the phins had ogunleye and Taylor, my pass rush was almost unstoppable...and i never blitzed. Every play at least one of those guys broke loose. Now, its not the same...point being the madden rankings on defense have a lot to do with the pressure you might be feeling.
i already sent you an IM on some of your questions. If you want to talk further on this subject let me know.
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Post by jpar on Sept 20, 2004 19:23:58 GMT -5
no, it was definitely the same blitz. His safeties would come down and play the same man coverage on the same WRs. That's why Deion had 3 sacks and plenty of QB pressures...
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Post by Poundtherock on Sept 21, 2004 6:32:34 GMT -5
1.) Check the SAPML Rules for an answer to your question.
2.) As for your game complaint regarding you opponent, there is also a rule explaining how to handle them, as in "Forum Decorum."
3.) Being new in the league I trust you have read the rules.
4.) SAPML "guidelines" as well as "rules" should be taken seriously.
5.) As the Commish suggested, further inquiry regarding that game should be directed to him and not handled here in the forum.
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Post by jpar on Sept 21, 2004 10:16:44 GMT -5
That's fine and dandy, but all I know is, I didn't join a league to play this way. When I play a league game with set rules and guidelines, I'm expecting a certain gameplay style. When I see a different style, it throws off my mentality and the rules limit how I can counter it. My initial post was NOT bashing, and still isn't; it's a question of how the league handles this sort of play. Instead of being a wise-ass about it and asking me to "refer to the rules" (which I did), how about defining it a little better so I know if it's worth my time sticking around? Is this type of gameplay the norm here? Or is it an aberration? I know that from the posts I see, the guys in this league (including Petrags) seem on the up and up. I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything here.
As for contacting the commish, I IMed him several times during my game so I could get some guidance. I was also incorrectly informed by the Ravens that I couldn't move my men in the box to try to stop the Ravens vaunted running attack (this was in response to my questioning his milking the clock with over 3 min remaining in the 2nd quarter). At that point, I was shutting down Lewis pretty well. After I relented and didn't move my men in the box, he broke off the 80 yard run. Then I went and checked the rules. Nothin there about men in the box. So I went right back to it.
Anyway, my issue isn't about limiting blitzing. It's about sportsmanship and sim play. What NFL team uses the SAME blitz every passing play? Since when does Deion tackle ANYONE, much less get 3 sacks? And what NFL team continues to blitz up 28-0 with less than a quarter left in the game?
It's bush league, in my opinion, and I just wanted some input. I'm a pretty straightforward, tell it like it is guy, so I apologize if I am offending anyone here. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page...
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Post by Poundtherock on Sept 21, 2004 12:31:29 GMT -5
That's fine and dandy, but all I know is, I didn't join a league to play this way. When I play a league game with set rules and guidelines, I'm expecting a certain gameplay style. When I see a different style, it throws off my mentality and the rules limit how I can counter it. My initial post was NOT bashing, and still isn't; it's a question of how the league handles this sort of play. Instead of being a wise-ass about it and asking me to "refer to the rules" (which I did), how about defining it a little better so I know if it's worth my time sticking around? Is this type of gameplay the norm here? Or is it an aberration? I know that from the posts I see, the guys in this league (including Petrags) seem on the up and up. I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything here. As for contacting the commish, I IMed him several times during my game so I could get some guidance. I was also incorrectly informed by the Ravens that I couldn't move my men in the box to try to stop the Ravens vaunted running attack (this was in response to my questioning his milking the clock with over 3 min remaining in the 2nd quarter). At that point, I was shutting down Lewis pretty well. After I relented and didn't move my men in the box, he broke off the 80 yard run. Then I went and checked the rules. Nothin there about men in the box. So I went right back to it. Anyway, my issue isn't about limiting blitzing. It's about sportsmanship and sim play. What NFL team uses the SAME blitz every passing play? Since when does Deion tackle ANYONE, much less get 3 sacks? And what NFL team continues to blitz up 28-0 with less than a quarter left in the game? It's bush league, in my opinion, and I just wanted some input. I'm a pretty straightforward, tell it like it is guy, so I apologize if I am offending anyone here. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page... First of all, you must have been offended by what I posted but I don't see how. To offend me by calling me a wise-ass, well, I have a thicker skin than that and I always consider the source. But I'm sure that at least one and possibly more league members could be offended by your posts, but so far they are abiding by the decorum rule. Normally, I would have handled situations like this by email but I am posting this because I think it needs a reply since you obviously stepped over the line and didn't get the message from the Beast nor the Commish nor I. LEAGUE DECORUM: Forum and League Daddy posts that are considered a detriment to the integrity of the league will be deleted, no questions asked. This includes arguments, calling out other players, etc. If you have a complaint, e-mail the Commish or Co-commish, e-mail the other player or PM or AIM or YIM, but do not post it in the forum or on League Daddy. We are not going to let LD and this forum look like some of the others. If your complaint is important enough to be posted then it should officially be made to the Commissioner or Co-commish. The posting of any images or links thereto of objectionable material will also be removed and the post so noted. You, have already violated that rule three times with your posts here and in League Daddy which I edited. RULE XIV GRINDING THE CLOCK: You cannot consistently go below 10 seconds on the “40-second play-clock ” before you have the play in motion, unless you are in the last 2 minutes of the 2nd quarter or last 3 minutes of the 4th quarter. If this rule was violated, it should have been reported to the Commish and/or rules committee by email or PM or IM. MIXING PLAYS: Keep it as real as you can in mixing up plays as the real teams do. It’s understandable that a team with RB problems is going to pass more than run and a team with poor WRs is going to run more. But not 90% of the time. QBs cannot run 90% of the time either. If you have a “money play,” you should not run it every play or every other play. Style of play is just that. Don’t expect your opponent to play the style as you do, just that he plays by the rules.Pay close attention to that last sentence. But it sounds like you stayed in shotgun formation about as much as he blitzed. ;D And I believe I'm correct in saying that you can bring the safeties down on just about every play in a playbook. We cannot write a thesis on every rule. 10 very good league members wrote these rules with much time and thought. As a new member, making remarks such as "bush league" means that you need to go back and not just read them, but understand them so you will continue to be able to play in one of the best leagues online. Should you need further discussion of this matter, contact the Commish or myself, as I would be most happy to enlighten you. ;D For right now, I will ignore your wise-ass reference as maybe immaturity for there is nothing in the post that could be construed as such. So far, this has been a one-sided story. Let this be the end of it unless you have a formal complaint to be made against someone.
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Post by Poundtherock on Sept 21, 2004 14:08:05 GMT -5
BTW, just information-wise, Petrags has, in fact, given his side of the story. And as the cliche goes, "there are always two sides to the story." This thread is closed unless it needs to be re-opened, for whatever reason that could be, in the future.
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