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Post by Gladiator on Jul 22, 2006 7:08:14 GMT -5
OK PTR, I need confirmation of this. My buddy papinjohn told Zod who told me that this is what they heard about the PS3 and it`s games. 1) the games will be priced between $70-$100! 2) once the game is played on your personal PS3 system, you won`t be able to play it on anybody else`s system because of the Blueray technology. (ex. Zod buys a game, plays it at his house, wants me to see it so he brings it over, but it won`t play on my ps3. Couple this with the price of $499.99-$599.99 and the XBOX is looking good. Any truth here?
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Post by Gladiator on Jul 22, 2006 7:10:10 GMT -5
Plus I hear XBOX is planning to drop game prices as well. Some games coming out will be $39.99.
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Post by Poundtherock on Jul 22, 2006 9:15:05 GMT -5
I don't know where that came from. I have about 5-6 sites that I regularly check and that information has not been available. Most likely as you stated in the subject matter for this thread: PS3 Rumors! Maybe this will help: EB games and Gamestop: Madden NFL 07 Platform: Playstation 3 Publisher: Electronic Arts Category: Sports ESRB Rating: Rating Pending Pre-Release Ships 11/1/06 $59.99 WHAT? You mean you haven't pre-ordered '07 for the PS3 yet?Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Platform: Playstation 3 Publisher: Konami Category: Action, Adventure ESRB Rating: Rating Pending Pre-Release Ships 12/1/06 $59.99 Just to mention two games. All other 30-something games ready for launch priced the same as the above. Looks like normal pricing to me.And as far as this info goes "2) once the game is played on your personal PS3 system, you won`t be able to play it on anybody else`s system because of the Blueray technology," I have not read anywhere or heard anything to indicate that the PS3 would be able to record anything onto blueray discs, whether games or movies. If that be the case, and your PS3 went lame and you had to buy a new one, then you would have to replace all your blueray disks because your broke PS3 made them unreadable on your new PS3. Gimme a break! Probably a rumor started by Microsoft Xbox consumers. There is a war going on out there besides in Iraq and Israel/Lebanon! So quit starting rumors, you Xbox fanboy. ;D Signed, PTR Sony fanboy
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Post by papinjohn on Jul 22, 2006 14:04:40 GMT -5
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Post by Gladiator on Jul 22, 2006 15:32:00 GMT -5
oh,oh, I`m not feeling well right now.
Maybe the wife should have sold the PS2 at the garage sale.......
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Post by nyg17 on Jul 22, 2006 19:39:00 GMT -5
ya'll are crazy
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Post by Poundtherock on Jul 22, 2006 21:23:57 GMT -5
Okay, reading the stories sheds a different light on the matter, but I don't think they are new. Utililizing the blueray disk factor reasoning, as earlier suggested, no, IMO, I don't believe it can happen to anything except maybe a Sony produced product. And then it would have to utilize the benefits of the system HD or unless Sony writes something in the disk root area coding the game to that machine only. What I gather from the "stories" that it is more of a copy protection issue, and we all know that a disk can be copy protected. This technology has always been around. Making the disk unreadable on another console would be, IMO, a big hurdle for Sony or MS to get over with consumers...and lawyers. The following may be another reason why this issue is still only a rumor: Sony tried in EU to get the PS3 classified as a "computer" to no avail. If that would have happened then the US would be next and yes, you possibly would have to license the product for "x" amount of computers or delegated only to that PS3. At present, any software company can do this. I currently run a $4000.00 plus software program that is key coded (the key leased from the company) that can only be opened on one computer. Another computer across the room (Linda's) requires a different key and code. It all works on the same principle. However, this software key is leased, not purchased over the counter, which is a totally different animal than if you bought the software over the counter. However, I don't see that relationship with the rumor stories. I don't believe the intent, if this issue ever comes to fruition, is to keep you from taking your copy of a game over to a friends' house and having a great game experience, but, in fact, would probably be the end result should it go down in the future. It would be to keep retailers like Gamestop and EB from reaping profits off trade-ins, pre-owns, which is a booming business, and game producers get no profit. Same with copy-protected music and movies. Right now there would be more harm to consumers, not worth the money that Sony would lose. A total boost to MS. Crystal ball gazing, I see the future as you not puchasing a disk at all, that it will involve somehow the Sony internet live site as a "subscription" annually, monthly, whatever. Do you not think that if and when this would be possible that greedy Bill Gates and MS would not be one of the first to do this? In addition, would that not stop companies from making any $$$$ off games being rented? Surely those profits from licensing would be lost. Regardless, I don't think you as a consumer will lose because you will (hopefully) always be able to play your purchased game on your PS3. And if the technology for this endeavor only invlovles copy protection issues, then that is a fact we already live with. You will not have to replace any of your purchased games. If we ever get to that bridge, "only on your console," then instead of taking your game over to your friend's house to play, either take your PS3 to his house or ask him to come to your house. It's not a big deal. To addendum my earlier answers to your questions:
1) We are already pre-ordering PS3 games at 59.99.
2) In the future that could be very possible with copy-protected technology that already exists, not just because of Blueray technology. Not as yet. This is only a rumor and it has been rejected by Sony officials (see below). So rest your fears and rid your minds of this devilish talk! ;D Sony denies such an initiative: Quote: "I would like to clarify that this is false speculation and that PlayStation 3 software will not be copy protected to a single machine but will be playable on any PlayStation 3 console." (Jennie Kong, UK PR Manager at SCEE)," unquote. My quote: Not this year but.............stay tuned!I also leave you with Gamestop's quote, "Bogus or not bogus?: Say it isn't so, Sony! No? OK, how 'bout you, Pachter? "The rumor about Sony limiting the resale of used games sounds phony to me," said the analyst. Again, this thread is aptly named, lol. Disclaimer: Of course, my "personal" viewpoints could be very, very wrong.
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Post by Gladiator on Jul 23, 2006 5:46:20 GMT -5
Thx PTR, I feel a little better. Now, how about Bigfoot, does he really exist and is he a missing primate like the History Channel suggests? ;D
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Post by Poundtherock on Jul 23, 2006 6:18:24 GMT -5
Oh, but Bigfoot lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Post by nyg17 on Jul 23, 2006 16:16:56 GMT -5
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Post by papinjohn on Jul 24, 2006 12:17:03 GMT -5
Hey, I just posted those links as a response to Glad's comments.
I agree this stuff is strictly a rumor with no official comment from Sony.
To answer another question I read at the Attack of the Show site Videogame news that Microsoft has no plans to lower the price on the Xbox 360 this year. Take that with a grain of salt, but I think it would be tough to lower the price considering Microsoft is also taking a loss on the hardware. If anything I would expect them to be pushing for the release of exclusive Xbox titles around November like Gears of War or Halo 3 when the PS3 drops.
At some point there has got to be some must have titles. Looks like 2007 will be the year. I am interested to see how Madden 360 is in August.
Microsoft has issues but so does Sony. Betamax, UMD format which retailers are pulling off the shelves, and do not forget the spyware that got loaded on PCs from Sony Music Cds. Also, their lack of a decent MP3 player. Let's not assume that the people running these companies are all that smart and know what the consumer wants.
I am undecided myself at this time. I know that a new $600 Game system with games costing $60-$70 is going to be a tough sell at home. My wife hates Madden as it is.
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Post by Poundtherock on Jul 24, 2006 12:28:46 GMT -5
I hear you, Pap. I would think it would take both MS and Sony till '08 to work out some bugs. For sure, neither system is going to be perfect.
And I too have read where MS said they were not lowering the price as they too are losing money on each system. Ahhhh, PS2!
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Post by tdogg on Jul 24, 2006 12:57:33 GMT -5
i hear when game store asked sony reps, they said "we will see when it comes out" meaning its probably true lol i hope not
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Post by Poundtherock on Jul 25, 2006 5:16:52 GMT -5
(I had put this in another thread which I felt was out of sync with the topic question.) I believe choosing consoles and how much to spend on games are personal ("I") decisions, not really a decison of good or bad about the product game-wise or console-wise. The games do get better (go back and check Madden 2002) and personally, I don't see a problem paying more for a better product. Same goes for any improved product. Those that think games will not increase in price is still driving a ...............! Everything goes up in price. Why do we think that games should stay put? The consoles get better, the games get better, but we b-i-t-c-h (no offense to anyone) about paying $15-$20 more for a great product to run on a great next gen console! $100 games in the future? Probably so, if you're still playing it by then. You will just choose more wisely "the games" that you procure or you do for your kids, i.e., buying NCAA just because Madden hasn't come out yet. Yep, I did it too, only 2 times though, lol. The following may be why all the price issue stories came about, but this story is datelined 6/28. ------------------Posted June 28 2006 on PS3land: In an interview with PSM, Kaz Hirai has suggested that the price of PlayStation 3 games could vary, and some will exceed the $59.99 mark. The President of Sony Computer Entertainment America accepted that it would be a shock to consumers to see the price of games double to $99. "I don't expect it to be a hundred bucks. I think it would be a bit of a stretch to think that we could suddenly turn around and say "PS3 games now $99.99" So whilst Hirai believes it is an unlikely path to follow, he doesn't rule out the possibility of $100 games in the future. With the cost of developing games increasing exponentially with each generation of consoles, and with the losses Sony will suffer from selling the PS3, it is quite possible for certain high profile games to be priced upwards of $60. Although Sony is likely to get away with the high price of the PlayStation 3, due on brand identity, $100 games will be a hard sell, and even Sony is not that c-o-c-k-y. Hopefully.------------------ The reality is: If we want better consoles, better games with better graphics, etc., then we should expect to pay for it when the product gets better. Spend your money wisely. If you are moving to next gen, or if you are already there with the 360, as I will do with the PS3, then I know I certainly will narrow down my game list and I will own only one console, a console that will be an investment that doesn't need add-ons whereby I possibly end up having to buy another console in two or three years because the one I first bought lacked the technology that could have been included in the first console. Same with games. At the prices today, I will take my time and choose wisely. But as I said earlier, these are personal decisions that we all will have to make in the coming months, as well it should be. However, I must admit that I'm scared at this point of what the future holds.
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