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Post by Commish on Aug 23, 2006 16:53:14 GMT -5
All, just want to get peoples feelings on the cone this season.
On all pro it is not automatically on..to put it on from what i have seen you have to bring it up manually pressing R2 each pass play (i dont think you can have it automatically come up unless your on all-madden). Using the cone is supposed to make the precision passing more accurate..so in a way its an advantage. But then again it acts as a tipper for the defense.
So, what do you guys think...mandatory, optional? Lets talk about it.
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Post by dazednconfused on Aug 23, 2006 17:07:33 GMT -5
I like it! I think we should keep it. Only problem with that is getting people to press down on the sticks to bring it up. Some may say they forgot. Some times when passing you need to hit your WR or TE quickly. I see this being a hindrance. The only way to ensure it's on for everyone is to go to All Madden mode. If thats what needs to be done then I'm in!
so all in all I'm in favor of the cone.
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Post by madc55 on Aug 23, 2006 17:14:50 GMT -5
I commish mbcmo and shanks and glad are in this as well, the reasons above are a reason im leaning towards not having the cone as part of the league. I have alot of skilled league members in mbcmo but there are also guys that have been with me since madden 03 and are not afaid to admit they are not the most skilled/talented owners but love the league. My league has been successful as it has becasue I don't look for skilled owners as a requirement, I want guys that try and play the game right, have fun, and respect eachother and thats what has made my league successful. So I take that into consideration as well. We have a wide range of league members and 20 of them are still in there from madden 03. I see this being a hindrance as dazed explained but I will not be moving my league up to all madden. That being said my league prb won't be going that route however in this league I would prefer to stick with the default but im fine with sticking with the cone. I think if you are sticking with all pro then you get rid of the cone, if you move it to all madden then the cone it is.
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Post by rockdawg on Aug 23, 2006 17:27:57 GMT -5
I'd say go with the defaults.. If the cone is on in All Pro, then lets cone. If the cone is off, then lets play with it off. Just makes things simplier.
I have no problem playing All-Pro or All-Madden.. JMHO
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Post by dazednconfused on Aug 23, 2006 18:20:50 GMT -5
How does online work? I played 6 games yesterday all ranked and the cone was on for all of them. Atleast I thought it was. Or was it?
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Post by Commish on Aug 23, 2006 18:50:44 GMT -5
it only comes up if you press the R2 button..which is probably habit for most of us right now.
If we keep it on all pro, we will have to make it optional...which i dont really see a big issue with. It does help your precision passing if you do use it...
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Post by dazednconfused on Aug 23, 2006 19:00:11 GMT -5
it only comes up if you press the R2 button..which is probably habit for most of us right now. If we keep it on all pro, we will have to make it optional...which i dont really see a big issue with. It does help your precision passing if you do use it... Ahhh I thought you needed to press the R or L stick down to do this.
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Post by nyg17 on Aug 23, 2006 19:43:40 GMT -5
Ya'll got me thinking I haven't played online yet so I can't tell but I would vote to keep the cone on I'm used tto it plus I feel if they are going to follow the eyes of tha QB look em off and that wil solve the problem. If the Majority wants tha cone On and we have to move to ALL Madden I'm for that too. It just gets more serius for All madden that CPU AI might frustrate alot of people but your superstars are SUPERSTARS
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Post by Tony79 on Aug 23, 2006 19:54:42 GMT -5
majority wins for me.
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Post by Gladiator on Aug 23, 2006 21:02:41 GMT -5
Gentlemen, we have to carefully consider the situation. Should we ban the cone, what would be next? The truck/highlight stick? The new lead blocking feature?
All these features are part of the game. I understand that some feel that they are difficult. Maybe even be unfair to a slight degree but the fact is, these features are all ones that can be mastered. Every year in August we are all on the most level playing field. It is up to us as individuals to practice our craft. That is what separates us all.
The cone gives the game more realism. Now just like a QB, one has to look off the WR. If anything, it keeps the defense on its toes because anyone who is a "cone follower" can be caught in the wrong position for a big gain.
Does this mean that we should move up and play on ALL MADDEN to insure that everyone plays with the cone on? Perhaps so. But it is something that must be decided on now while the learning curve is still as even as possible.
Realistically though, I believe that what will happen is that we will continue to play on ALL PRO. And those who can use the cone will. Those who can`t won`t. Perhaps the equalizer will be that those who can, will be able to complete a higher percentage of passes.
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Post by rockdawg on Aug 23, 2006 21:32:27 GMT -5
I just played ZOD online, All-Pro settings and the cone was on. I dont know if there was an option to turn it off or not.. I dont think I had to hit the R2 button for it to come up. Just passing along some info.
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Post by tdogg on Aug 23, 2006 21:51:53 GMT -5
Rock when you played Rank it automatically comes on when u play unranked its like playing cpu
my first and only beef really is this I havent played All-Madden ever not in 03-07 not even in ps1 with Gameday i never played on the highest difficulty so its kinda unfair to just be like "Hey: we need cone on at all times so were going to play on All-Madden. I have played on All-madden against some friends but its rare.
with that said on the flip side i am a big fan of the cone. i know its not fair for someone like me who has Alex Smith and someone who has Peyton Manning but also so i think we should stick to all pro and make it optional. who does it hurt if I want to use it but lets say commish doesnt. it doesnt hurt me if he doesnt want to use it, its not proven yet that he will get more completions with it off or just be able to completely pass across field without looking
so I say optional and we keep it at whoevers discretion and i do think the cone is unfair in some circumstances with people like Alex smith and small cones, and im focused. so i sohould be able to use it when i want
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Post by madc55 on Aug 23, 2006 21:52:06 GMT -5
Glad you make some valid points but one of my biggest complaints on the cone is I do not think its fair that a league member who has payton manning should have 10 times a bigger cone vision the say rex grossman. Sure manning is the better player ect and obvioulsy his vision is superior, however i still don't think its fair to all league members as that are already put at a disadvantage. Manning ratings speak for them self and thats something i truly believe is the advantage of having good players but to hamper some league member on the size cone they have is not an even playing field from the start. No cone puts eveyone in teh same level as far as when it comes to passing. I do agree with you on were you stated that it prb will be an option for this league as I have been thinking the same for mine. I really don't have a prb with the cone but overall if you stay at all pro i think what you said above is prb the right way to go. Just my 2 cents
you were prb playing a ranked game, cause if you play an unranked game the cone is off on all-pro settings, however if you play a ranked game it is on. Ranked games however you can't change the settings such as time ect.
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Post by tdogg on Aug 24, 2006 0:01:46 GMT -5
WOW OK NOW I SEE WHY THIS IS A DISCUSSION I just played practice without the passing cone, and this game was so much easier, i was throwing it across the screen to Davis and other wrs all day wow this really is a tough call once again i feel like this will help out players like me with bad QBs, but on the other hand, it also makes the game more even, which maybe it should be in the first place. but should i have less advantage with the cone as the person who has a manning or should we be on an equal playing field, i guess i would chose the equal playing field
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Post by Gladiator on Aug 24, 2006 3:58:20 GMT -5
Guys, if the QB`s were on the same level they would all be rated the same.
Basically, all the cone does is visualize the difference.
So with the cone on or off I would imagine that if you do not have a decent QB, you`re still not going to pass like a Manning.
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